I knew the media and health industrial complex was out over its skis after the Diamond Princess (a worst case scenario: floating close quarters incubator) revealed a fatality rate of about 0.3%. Everything from that moment forward was a lack-of-context horror show of Salem Witch Trial level mass hysteria. Only in the last few months have people started to sober up to the reality that perhaps they were taken for a ride.
You echo my early thoughts regarding a supposedly safe and effective vax for a coronavirus. I waited (and am still waiting) for solid proof. When real data was suppressed and the only way out was an experimental vax, seemed very suspicious to me. All risk and likely no reward is my expectation.
The SARS-1 and MERS vaccine attempts were abject failures. Folks began noodeling on an HIV vaccine in the lat '80's and still we have nothing...yet over a weekend we are able to produce a safe, effective vaccine for this particular virus? Maybe, but there is a lot of ground to take on that and to your point, things do not appear to be pencil out favorably.
i guess, but i'm not willing to forgive those who took jobs away and openly gloated over the deaths of people who weren't vaccinated simply because they were scared
You really need to keep writing this stuff Robb it is so valuable in this day and age.
For some context I work in a retirement home in MN. The vaccine was mandatory. I have had two doses but since they did not mandate after that I stopped. Now in fairness I am a pretty healthy 40 year old. I have been saying since the start of this that folks need to be as strong as possible (my catch all for good metabolic health). I was silenced in a big way here as well.
That being said we are now 2 plus years into this thing and I have witnessed yes a lot of people over 80 die from COVID (sorry but kinda expected that) but what is mind blowing to me is how is still keeps picking off our "young and healthy" staff. I can assure you most of the staff here is not very healthy. I have even been offering free exercise classes to staff with very few taking advantage of the offer.
So many have had 4 doses, wear N95s all day, but are overweight, get no sun, and are getting their butts kicked. As of now I have not had it that I am aware of (I am sure I have just no symptoms). I can no where articulate things they way you can and I am aware of the "powers to be" but this thing really did not need to get so out of control if people would eat some steak and lift some weights!
Anthony, thank you for this. There is so much information I sometimes wonder if what I'm doing really matters, if nothing else it's pretty damn close to therapy for me.
my strong feeling from the beginning was that i would wait and see but probably not take the vaccine. it was too new, developed too quickly and how many blockbuster, game changing cancer treatments have come to market with extravagant promises to justify their billion dollar price tags only to be proven in the real world to extend life by a miserable few weeks?
the initial claims of 95% efficacy were enough to raise suspicious eyebrows. the virologists on TWIV swore that a vaccine couldn't be developed safely in under 10 years and then immediately reversed course and pronounced them "miracles."
you had to wonder when they started with all the carrots- free donuts, lottery tickets, $100 bonuses. i can see giving a crying tot a lollipop to calm it down but treating adults like children who have to be bribed with "a spoonful of sugar?" give me a break!
and when that wasn't enough, the sticks- shredding the constitution, threatening your job, family members and friends disowning you, penalties in the form of higher insurance rates, the blaming, the name calling, the president encouraging open season on dissidents, pharmacists refusing to fill legitimate prescriptions for ivermectin, etc.
it all points, if not to actual conspiracy, then at least to massive bureaucratic over reach and group think
God I'd love to be over it, but I'm in Oakland, CA so that's practically impossible.
I run a small personal training studio and still have clients, all quadruple vaxxed, that insist on masking. I want to model sanity, but also can't stomach losing income, so I roll with it. We still owe ("owe") back rent from lockdowns, when we were expressly forbidden from operating.
All the yoga studios near me are vax and/or mask only. Many bars and restaurants, too. Libraries, which I used to like to hang out in, are STILL mask mandated.
My friends and family all go along with the authoritarianism. Actual conversation, no matter how humble I present in initiating, is impossible.
Me too! Here in Oakland, it’s just crazy with there being ZERO space for any difference of opinion. People wearing masks outside for walks, the audacity of the businesses asking people for proof of VAX when it’s an illegal ask and mandate. At least there are 2 of us with a bit of perspective and sanity. I’ve just learned to mostly keep my mouth shut.
My husband, my son and myself didn't get vax'd. Everyone else around us did. Recently almost everyone has gotten covid except for, low and behold the three of us. And its not even the first time it happens. All everyone says when I point this out is, "well you don't test so how would you know?" My questions is since when do people get random testing for things if they're not sick? No amount of pointing out the obvious make any difference from what I have seen.
And this is the danger of living in a post truth world. If you can get folks to ignore basic reality, to abandon any sense of empirical observation, it’s easy to make folks killers, jailers etc.
and they are trying to start it all up again. masks forever, 4th - endless boosters....shutdowns, plastic barriers, floor stickers....all the same stuff that made little to no difference in a positive direction (plenty of negative) It must be met with measured but severe resistance. The next heads of the CDC and NIH had better be people like Marty Makary or we are doomed. Related - lll engage on the topic of how we pay for healthcare for all once we start talking about measures that improve our nations underlying health. This wont happen given the oversized influence of pharma and food conglomerates....
Beautiful rant! And just like other countries, Canada has begun to pull publication (from easy public access) of data that no longer supports the "the vaccines are effective" covidian narrative. Surprise!
I keep hearing about “all the side effects” of the vaccines/mRNA, etc., but when I take to the internet in search of “truth” I…
1. don’t find too much newer than this article
2. don’t find anything much else beside what the screen shot above shows
3. do find A LOT about the benefits and the “why we should” - no surprise here…
My search results are of course determined in large part by my search term (robb wolf covid vaccine moderna mrna) so perhaps I need to improve those but for now they’ll do as I arrived here. There is proof of censoring Google searches and other big tech media and I’m sure that leads to my #3 but we can tackle that on another comment.
So, getting to the point of this comment…
I’m currently 40, got the Moderna (2 shots) in 2021, probably about 80lbs overweight with low Vit D, high blood indications of liver and thyroid problems, and pretty much sedentary. This is my situation currently and well before I got the Fauci Ouchie. The only reason I got the shot was for my job. I beat myself up about it everyday since so there won’t be any comments here that could shame me more than I already have. Another separate story…
I have no symptoms that could not be explained by my poor health. What should I be looking for as far as symptoms? Are there blood test results that can show vaccine related/caused problems? Basically, how does a (below) average Joe figure out what my level of risk is after getting the vaccine? I can’t undo it (or can?) so is there any recourse now that I am vax’d? Obviously I need to get healthy. And I’m probably barking up the wrong tree. Vax’d to the max or not, my current health state is probably worse than having been vax’d?
Zach- a lot of good questions and commentary...I doubt my response will really be on par but here goes:
1-Do what you can. Regardless of current health, past Fauci Ouchie, just do what you can. Get in a walk, skip the bun on burgers, get some sunlight on your skin, aggressively supplement with a vit-d/k2 product (you can do something like 10 drops once per week)
2-As to testing...IDK. These folks are pretty on point but with testing and recovery protocols: https://covid19criticalcare.com/
3-Just an observation: It never bothered me (much) that "the world" said low carb diets suck, but I kinda knew better. It was two worlds that did not blend, oil and water style. I got called a few names, nothing terrible. On this front however, it's fucking weird that two entirely different worlds exist here. In tiny bits you see admissions like Fauci saying yes, a TINY fraction of men get myocarditis..." but you go outside the mainstream, talk to embalmers and pathologists and it's a really different story. IDK what to think of it. It's super ungrounding as folks will use differences in this topic to deplatform, debank, revoke merchant processors. They will fucking chop your head off and effectively put one in a modern techno-concentration camp.
Electrolytes (no, not LMNT :( but that's out of pure laziness because I can just buy Liquid IV at Costco...)
So... basically, I took your advice (after following you since the early CF days it finally clicked...LOL...FML...J/K...)
I will get my blood work done again in January and just keep going from there. At the end of the day the point of my comment and your response is really simple: do what you can. That hit me in the face enough to do just that; crazy how you can hear the same or similar message for years and then finally it just takes one thing to make it click.... I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying nerding out a little bit too :D
As always, I can't thank you enough for continuing to be here and doing what you do.
Nice write-up Robb! I'm not so sure that we can take a retrospective look at this thing yet though. (not saying that was the intention here, but...) People will fall ill again when winter comes, for the same reasons that they always have, and it might of course be worse the coming flu season due to the factors you've described here. Only if the powers that be decide that we should focus on something else this winter can we be spared. It might sound cruel, but I'm almost relieved as long as the Ukraine thing is still going on.
I’ve always respected your perspective & insight since I saw you on JRE years back and read your books. You are fighting the good fight on health, meat, and on critical thinking, kid! Thank you.
I knew the media and health industrial complex was out over its skis after the Diamond Princess (a worst case scenario: floating close quarters incubator) revealed a fatality rate of about 0.3%. Everything from that moment forward was a lack-of-context horror show of Salem Witch Trial level mass hysteria. Only in the last few months have people started to sober up to the reality that perhaps they were taken for a ride.
I forget about that all the time. that natural experiment was one of the most important data points we had and it's just gone.
same. The Diamond Princess changed everything for me.
You echo my early thoughts regarding a supposedly safe and effective vax for a coronavirus. I waited (and am still waiting) for solid proof. When real data was suppressed and the only way out was an experimental vax, seemed very suspicious to me. All risk and likely no reward is my expectation.
The SARS-1 and MERS vaccine attempts were abject failures. Folks began noodeling on an HIV vaccine in the lat '80's and still we have nothing...yet over a weekend we are able to produce a safe, effective vaccine for this particular virus? Maybe, but there is a lot of ground to take on that and to your point, things do not appear to be pencil out favorably.
it does strain credibility to the breaking point and yet, so many bought into it fully
Fear of death and loss of community will do that.
i guess, but i'm not willing to forgive those who took jobs away and openly gloated over the deaths of people who weren't vaccinated simply because they were scared
I can understand that.
You really need to keep writing this stuff Robb it is so valuable in this day and age.
For some context I work in a retirement home in MN. The vaccine was mandatory. I have had two doses but since they did not mandate after that I stopped. Now in fairness I am a pretty healthy 40 year old. I have been saying since the start of this that folks need to be as strong as possible (my catch all for good metabolic health). I was silenced in a big way here as well.
That being said we are now 2 plus years into this thing and I have witnessed yes a lot of people over 80 die from COVID (sorry but kinda expected that) but what is mind blowing to me is how is still keeps picking off our "young and healthy" staff. I can assure you most of the staff here is not very healthy. I have even been offering free exercise classes to staff with very few taking advantage of the offer.
So many have had 4 doses, wear N95s all day, but are overweight, get no sun, and are getting their butts kicked. As of now I have not had it that I am aware of (I am sure I have just no symptoms). I can no where articulate things they way you can and I am aware of the "powers to be" but this thing really did not need to get so out of control if people would eat some steak and lift some weights!
Please please please keep up the work!
Anthony, thank you for this. There is so much information I sometimes wonder if what I'm doing really matters, if nothing else it's pretty damn close to therapy for me.
my strong feeling from the beginning was that i would wait and see but probably not take the vaccine. it was too new, developed too quickly and how many blockbuster, game changing cancer treatments have come to market with extravagant promises to justify their billion dollar price tags only to be proven in the real world to extend life by a miserable few weeks?
the initial claims of 95% efficacy were enough to raise suspicious eyebrows. the virologists on TWIV swore that a vaccine couldn't be developed safely in under 10 years and then immediately reversed course and pronounced them "miracles."
you had to wonder when they started with all the carrots- free donuts, lottery tickets, $100 bonuses. i can see giving a crying tot a lollipop to calm it down but treating adults like children who have to be bribed with "a spoonful of sugar?" give me a break!
and when that wasn't enough, the sticks- shredding the constitution, threatening your job, family members and friends disowning you, penalties in the form of higher insurance rates, the blaming, the name calling, the president encouraging open season on dissidents, pharmacists refusing to fill legitimate prescriptions for ivermectin, etc.
it all points, if not to actual conspiracy, then at least to massive bureaucratic over reach and group think
Always glad to hear your perspective on anything Covid!
Thanks! I've been kinda keeping my head down but I'm just over it.
God I'd love to be over it, but I'm in Oakland, CA so that's practically impossible.
I run a small personal training studio and still have clients, all quadruple vaxxed, that insist on masking. I want to model sanity, but also can't stomach losing income, so I roll with it. We still owe ("owe") back rent from lockdowns, when we were expressly forbidden from operating.
All the yoga studios near me are vax and/or mask only. Many bars and restaurants, too. Libraries, which I used to like to hang out in, are STILL mask mandated.
My friends and family all go along with the authoritarianism. Actual conversation, no matter how humble I present in initiating, is impossible.
Basically, everything sucks.
Me too! Here in Oakland, it’s just crazy with there being ZERO space for any difference of opinion. People wearing masks outside for walks, the audacity of the businesses asking people for proof of VAX when it’s an illegal ask and mandate. At least there are 2 of us with a bit of perspective and sanity. I’ve just learned to mostly keep my mouth shut.
Hit me up when/if you need an ally around here! My gf and I live by the Lake. We know a few like minded folks...but sadly just a few.
Sirpork@pm.me (Jack)
YIKES!
"I knew fuckery was afoot" Best line ever Robb!!!!! I think we should replace COVID-19 with Fuckery-19.
My husband, my son and myself didn't get vax'd. Everyone else around us did. Recently almost everyone has gotten covid except for, low and behold the three of us. And its not even the first time it happens. All everyone says when I point this out is, "well you don't test so how would you know?" My questions is since when do people get random testing for things if they're not sick? No amount of pointing out the obvious make any difference from what I have seen.
And this is the danger of living in a post truth world. If you can get folks to ignore basic reality, to abandon any sense of empirical observation, it’s easy to make folks killers, jailers etc.
and they are trying to start it all up again. masks forever, 4th - endless boosters....shutdowns, plastic barriers, floor stickers....all the same stuff that made little to no difference in a positive direction (plenty of negative) It must be met with measured but severe resistance. The next heads of the CDC and NIH had better be people like Marty Makary or we are doomed. Related - lll engage on the topic of how we pay for healthcare for all once we start talking about measures that improve our nations underlying health. This wont happen given the oversized influence of pharma and food conglomerates....
Beautiful rant! And just like other countries, Canada has begun to pull publication (from easy public access) of data that no longer supports the "the vaccines are effective" covidian narrative. Surprise!
https://seekinghealthtruth.substack.com/p/canadian-provinces-stop-reporting
eloquently put, in a 'salty' way. Thank You. (very interesting 'typos') this whole thing has forced me to reconsider all sorts of long held positions.
My typos are for sure endemic, but I think safe!
i took them as intentional and pretty damn pfunny. if they were freudian, they were still damn pfunny.
Transactions -> transfections
Definitely looking forward to reading your thoughts on the unvaccinated, as you alluded to some future article.
I keep hearing about “all the side effects” of the vaccines/mRNA, etc., but when I take to the internet in search of “truth” I…
1. don’t find too much newer than this article
2. don’t find anything much else beside what the screen shot above shows
3. do find A LOT about the benefits and the “why we should” - no surprise here…
My search results are of course determined in large part by my search term (robb wolf covid vaccine moderna mrna) so perhaps I need to improve those but for now they’ll do as I arrived here. There is proof of censoring Google searches and other big tech media and I’m sure that leads to my #3 but we can tackle that on another comment.
So, getting to the point of this comment…
I’m currently 40, got the Moderna (2 shots) in 2021, probably about 80lbs overweight with low Vit D, high blood indications of liver and thyroid problems, and pretty much sedentary. This is my situation currently and well before I got the Fauci Ouchie. The only reason I got the shot was for my job. I beat myself up about it everyday since so there won’t be any comments here that could shame me more than I already have. Another separate story…
I have no symptoms that could not be explained by my poor health. What should I be looking for as far as symptoms? Are there blood test results that can show vaccine related/caused problems? Basically, how does a (below) average Joe figure out what my level of risk is after getting the vaccine? I can’t undo it (or can?) so is there any recourse now that I am vax’d? Obviously I need to get healthy. And I’m probably barking up the wrong tree. Vax’d to the max or not, my current health state is probably worse than having been vax’d?
::takes long physiological sigh::
Zach- a lot of good questions and commentary...I doubt my response will really be on par but here goes:
1-Do what you can. Regardless of current health, past Fauci Ouchie, just do what you can. Get in a walk, skip the bun on burgers, get some sunlight on your skin, aggressively supplement with a vit-d/k2 product (you can do something like 10 drops once per week)
2-As to testing...IDK. These folks are pretty on point but with testing and recovery protocols: https://covid19criticalcare.com/
3-Just an observation: It never bothered me (much) that "the world" said low carb diets suck, but I kinda knew better. It was two worlds that did not blend, oil and water style. I got called a few names, nothing terrible. On this front however, it's fucking weird that two entirely different worlds exist here. In tiny bits you see admissions like Fauci saying yes, a TINY fraction of men get myocarditis..." but you go outside the mainstream, talk to embalmers and pathologists and it's a really different story. IDK what to think of it. It's super ungrounding as folks will use differences in this topic to deplatform, debank, revoke merchant processors. They will fucking chop your head off and effectively put one in a modern techno-concentration camp.
Keep me posted!
Thank you for the response, Robb. This is long overdue but because of your response I saddled back up and have been making changes since May/June...
- I am averaging 2000 more steps per day (only 6k-8k but I'm working towards getting over 10k)
- I am averaging 1000 calories less per day (1800-2300 vs 2800-3300+)
- I am averaging weight loss of about 1lb per week
- I am taking the following supps/meds daily
Adderall: 30mg (want to get off of!!)
Creatine: 15g daily
Caffeine: 200-300mg daily
Pure Encapsulations Magnesium L-Threonate: 144mg
Pure Encapsulations Vitamin D: 8000-12000 IU daily (you mentioned drops and I am going to look into that)
Pure Encapsulations Vitamin K2: 100-300mcg daily
Pure Encapsulations Magnesium Glycinate: 360mg daily (dose might not be 100% accurate)
NOW Zinc: 50mg daily
Nordic Naturals Omega-3 (EPA/DHA): 1920mg combined EPA/DHA daily
Electrolytes (no, not LMNT :( but that's out of pure laziness because I can just buy Liquid IV at Costco...)
So... basically, I took your advice (after following you since the early CF days it finally clicked...LOL...FML...J/K...)
I will get my blood work done again in January and just keep going from there. At the end of the day the point of my comment and your response is really simple: do what you can. That hit me in the face enough to do just that; crazy how you can hear the same or similar message for years and then finally it just takes one thing to make it click.... I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying nerding out a little bit too :D
As always, I can't thank you enough for continuing to be here and doing what you do.
Nice write-up Robb! I'm not so sure that we can take a retrospective look at this thing yet though. (not saying that was the intention here, but...) People will fall ill again when winter comes, for the same reasons that they always have, and it might of course be worse the coming flu season due to the factors you've described here. Only if the powers that be decide that we should focus on something else this winter can we be spared. It might sound cruel, but I'm almost relieved as long as the Ukraine thing is still going on.
👏 Bravo 👏
I’ve always respected your perspective & insight since I saw you on JRE years back and read your books. You are fighting the good fight on health, meat, and on critical thinking, kid! Thank you.
Any thoughts for people who had to get jabbed for jobs? Or is it too late?